The Hsun Tzu (Fei Shih-erh Tzu section) used six literary passages to critique the Shih-erh Tzu, among which was one passage critiquing the two men Tzu Ssu and Meng Ke. The Han Shih Wai Chuan quotes these six literary passages, with only the section on Tzu Ssu and Meng Ke not appearing therein. Some historians believe the original edition of Hsun Tzu contained this passage, while some believe this passage in the Hsun Tzu to have been added in later studies by the likes of the students of Han Fei and Li Ssu, with the Wai Chuan Used as evidence. Opinions vary, however none of them can cite factual evidence to back up their own statements. After discussing statements from each camp, this piece cites two forms of factural evidence to prove that this passage was originally contained in the Hsun Tzu, and that the reason it was nto quoted in the Wai Chuan was that it was deleted as a result of Confucain censure, thus bringing closure to this stage in the debate.