Beginning in the Silla period, dynasties in the Korean peninsula used Chinese reign titles to show that they were tributaries. In the Qing dynasty, though, the question of whether to use such titles became a serious issue for Choson rulers. During the first war with the Qing in 1627, Choson continued to use the reign titles of the Ming dynasty. But after being defeated by the Qing in a second war in 1637, Choson had to start using Qing reign titles. While those titles were used until 1897 in official documents, the Chongzhen 崇禎 and Yongli 永曆 reign titles of the Ming dynasty were used in private letters, documents, and memorials. This usage both expressed pro-Ming/antiQing sentiments and indicated that the mantle of dynastic legitimacy had been inherited by Choson. Choson kings even went so far so to refuse to use posthumous titles imparted by Qing rulers. Choson saw the Manchurians as barbarians and refused to treat the Qing as a civilized dynasty, and Ming reign tit1es were taken on as a show of reverence for the Zhou dynastic tradition and the longing for the return of the Ming dynasty.